Lawrence is joined by Rick Ellis, host of the “Art of Skill” channel on YouTube. Rick is an incredibly creative person obsessed with skill development, excellence, and the highest expression of skill, through artistry. Rick first worked in Hollywood as a recording engineer and videographer before starting his software company in the early days of the internet. After his company made him insane riches, the changing landscape of the early internet saw these riches vanishing, almost as soon as they came. Rick gained a powerful insight into the pursuit of money not being the path to strive for, especially at the expense of spending time on your true passions. Rick now seeks to create artistry through jiujitsu, where he trains and teaches at his Jiujitsu school in Wyoming.